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Technical support / Re: Copnnection T100MD888+ to LAN
« on: November 07, 2003, 03:10:29 PM »
At the moment you can use a MOXA LAN to RS232 converter model DE311. You can then establish a TCP/IP connection to the PLC. Other RS232 to LAN converter can also be used.

TRi plans to introduce a Ethernet to RS232 converter in 1st quarter 2004 that will incorporate a subset of the TLServer functionality so that one or multiple M-series PLC may be accessed on the LAN  without the need for a PC to host the TLServer.  Look out for the announcement 1Q next year.

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Technical support / Re: LCD Display Question?
« on: November 11, 2003, 12:44:36 PM »
#1:   SETLCD 1,1, STR$(TIMERPV[1])

#2:   Are you using a MD-HMI or are you using just the LCD and with a few input buttons? There are sample HMI program to let you enter a value and then just store that value into the timer/counter PV or SV.

If you only have LCD, there is an example "SetTimCtrSV.PC5 in your "samples" folder that does exactly what you want to do.

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Technical support / Re: PWM Impedence
« on: November 13, 2003, 10:09:00 AM »
Let try to see If I understand you correctly:

1)  you are trying to measure the frequency of the output signal from the VFD which gives you a measurement of the current?

2) This VFD output is to be connected to input #3 of the PLC?

3) YOu are currently using the PMON function to measure the frequency using PULSEFREQUENCY function, but the reading obtained is unstable?

4) You are trying to convert the variable frequency output signal from the VFD into an analog value and feed it to the ADC #n of the PLC?

Let me know if any of the above assumption is not true. I am really not sure what impedance value are you looking for. If it is the input #3 then I am not sure whether we can say exactly what is the "input impedance" since the inputs are NPN type. The resistance in the path of the NPN inputs is 10K ohm.

If you are refering to the analog input (0-5V) then the input impedance is 1 M Ohm or higher.


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Technical support / Re: PWM Impedence
« on: September 10, 2003, 04:14:49 PM »
So the feedback signal is a 2KHz PWM? The duty cycle gives you the data you need? In that case, just connect it to input #3 and run PMON. Then use PULSEWIDTH(1)  function measure the pulsewidth of the PWM signal. You can get very accurate measurement of the pulse width (resolution of 1 microsecond)  and that can give you good feedback signal.

I don't see why you need the RC circuit unless the purpose is to convert the PWM signal into an analog signal and feed into ADC?

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Technical support / Re: PWM Impedence
« on: September 10, 2003, 11:18:20 AM »
I am not sure what is your objective. Are you using the PLC's PWM output to control the VFD? Normally VFD are either controlled by a analog input or a RS232/RS485 input. If your VFD can be controlled by RS485 that is the best way as you can get perfect values into the VFD. Although the PWM output may be low pass filtered to produce a pseudo analog output it may still be too noisy for device. We don't have a ready formula for such computation. You can try out the RC value they suggested to see if it will work better.

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Technical support / Re: T100MD888+ Power supply
« on: November 14, 2003, 07:47:05 AM »
When using in 12V configuration, the power supply should be regulated at 12V DC and should not dip below 10.5V at any time.

Your high voltage DC source should be stepped down using a DC-DC converter to 24V DC before connecting to the PLC. At such high voltage there isn't other safe or cheap method of connection.  Check with Vicor for a suitable product:  http://www.vicr.com

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Technical support / Re: md-exp1616r relay
« on: November 24, 2003, 01:40:03 PM »
What is the coil voltage? Is it a DC 24V or AC voltage? If it is DC 24V coil and driven by the solid state output from the PLC then no need to add diode as there is built-in flyback diode. But if you use relay output of the PLC then you should add a diode to absorb the inductive kick.

However, if your coil is 120VAC and you are using the PLC's relay output (that's the only choice) then you can use a varistor to absorb the inductive spike. But if the current to drive the coil is low then use of varistor is not necessary.

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Technical support / Re: EEPROM Program Memory
« on: November 24, 2003, 01:43:56 PM »
The T100MD+ PLC uses EEPROM that can endure rewrite of 100,000 cycles. This is nearly impossible to exhaust for the program memory under normal circumtances.

If you make use of the PLC's EEPROM data memory in your program, then just make sure that you do not have a rung that write to the EEPROM continuously every scan of the ladder as that will wear out the eeprom.

The EEPROM is replaceable if it is "worn out".

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Technical support / Re: RTC
« on: November 24, 2003, 01:48:54 PM »
You can use the TRiLOGI "Set PLC Real Time Clock" function under the "Controller" pull down menu to set the real time clock.

Once the real time clock is set to the value you defined, then you can use Online monitoring and click the "View Variable" to look at the new value of the RTC. It must work.

When you said "nothing happen" I think you are probably refering to what you display on the LCD? If your program does not refresh the LCD display regularly then the display will not show the new value even after you have set the new RTC data.

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Technical support / Re: MD2424 ADC conversion unstable
« on: November 26, 2003, 05:08:32 PM »
The ADC input on the PLC can be affected by digital noise in the digital section of the PLC. This include the switching noise in the power supply and the digital noise in the microprocessor circuit.
 
You may want to use a low noise linear power supply to reduce the noise that could affect the reading.

The ADC input built-in to the microprocessor can vary about +/- 3 LSB. Which means for 0-5V range, the variation is about:

5000*3/1024 = +/-15mV.

So it is not uncommon that the reading will jump around a median value. Such variation are quite typical of ADC circuit that are built into microprocessor.

The external analog module such as the I-7017 has its own isolated DC-DC converter in order to give very stable reading (16-bit resolution). This also partly explain its higher cost ($230) compared to the  built-in ADC on the PLC.


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Technical support / Re: Choosing ideal input Signals
« on: November 29, 2003, 11:41:45 PM »
The easiest type of sensor to use it one that output 0-5V which can be connected directly to the PLC's analog input. Of course you need to ensure that if the sensor has its own power supply then the sensor's ground must be common with that of the PLC's 0V.

If your sensor output 4-20mA, you can convert the current into 1 to 5V voltage using a 250 Ohm resistor (read your installation guide for the wiring method). Both 2-wire and 4 wires types can be used.

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Technical support / Re: PLC comm problem/ PLC Inoperative
« on: December 01, 2003, 07:58:29 PM »
If the PLC seems to be working properly and you are able to perform online monitoring, yet unable to transfer new program to the PLC, then you type in the following command at the serial command prompt in the TLServer:
 
@01$cKILL00*
 
(notice small letter "c" and capital "KILL")
 
That would delete the corrupted program and password which must have been there because of the corruption.  You will need to re-transfer your program to the PLC because the original program in your PLC will be deleted.

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Technical support / Re: PLC comm problem/ PLC Inoperative
« on: November 30, 2003, 12:00:16 AM »
Will, I am a little confused. You mentioned that you tried the reset instruction described in this post to no avail. Yet you mentioned that when you went to the site later you found that the PLC is running properly. Does it mean that initially you tried the instruction remotely? How were you able to turn ON DIP Switch and perform the reset if you were not at the site?

If your PLC gets back to running properly after a overnight shutdown without your manual intervention or transfering the program to the PLC, then it is likely that it RAM copies of the PLC CPU has been corrupted by the electrical noise in the system but the EEPROM copy is still intact. So after a power down and reset, the PLC runs the program properly again.

Protecting the supply to the PLC is important. Power to the microprocessor electronics is like life blood to human being. The PLC I/O circuit already filtered most of the noise coming from the  I/O but the power supply noise goes directly to CPU.  

Diesel/gas power generator are pretty noisy fellow. However, most power surge filter on the market are for AC circuit. You may want to try to search for a DC power filter to improve the reliability of your system.

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Technical support / Re: PLC comm problem/ PLC Inoperative
« on: November 28, 2003, 01:02:50 AM »
Your program seems to have been corrupted and that may be the reason why it doesn't work. Please follow instruction in your installation guide on the use of DIP switch #4 to reset the PLC program. The following are the steps:

1) Turn ON DIP switch #4.
2) Reset PLC by turning OFF power and then ON again
3) Open "Serial Communcation Setup" in TLServer and change the baud rate to 9600. Then type in the command "IR*". You should get a "IR01*" in return.
4) Now, transfer a blank program into the PLC to clear out the corrupted EEPROM.
5) Turn OFF DIP Switch #4
6) Reset PLC as in 2)
7) Change the baud rate to 38400.
8) Now the PLC should be workable as per normal.



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Technical support / Re: Transfer protected by password
« on: December 02, 2003, 06:19:46 PM »
Can you try to transfer one of those simple sample program to the PLC and then power OFF and then ON the PLC again. Check if the PLC goes into PAUSE mode again. We want to be certain if it is due to your application program or there is some hardware problem in the EEPROM.

If the PLC pauses after reboot even with the simple demo program, then most likely the EEPROM chip may have suffered some damage during the power outage. You should email us at support@tri-plc.com providing us your full contact address and we can make arrangement for replacement of the PLC or the EEPROM chip.

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