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Technical support / Re:Access system
« on: May 07, 2006, 11:06:48 PM »
Look I am not bashing the Tech Support Guy!

Im bashing there system of providing help!

Look at Parralax, Microchip, Motorola, TI, the list is to long to mention,
They all provide application notes, with scematics, code, even gerber files and pcb artwork
This is to make it as easy as posible for people to start using there product.
The quicker the learning curve the faster the revenue comes in.
I am ready to drop 5,000.00 dollars, on a product!
If i cant get help on using the product
What good is it for me to purchase it,
It may be the best one out there
But if i can't get it to work it is useless!.

When i build a device for a customer do you think i can say
Well look at the sample documentation  provided and figure it out for your self.
No the customer says i payed you, the device don't work now come and fix it.

Now Am I going to use Products that i can't get help with, When i have Problems?

The point is in order to support my customer! I also need Support!
My referance to Cubloc was!
"Look at there support board"
Look at there answers to there customers,
Look at the way there users help each other,
They may not be the best now!
But at the rate they are going it won't be long!
So you tell me?
Where is the best bet on return of investment.

I like the product, T100MD+
I just am frustrated that i can't get answers,
When every other place can give answers!  

It makes me boubt my choice on the product i invested in.

It may take many weeks but i will figure it out!
Then i to can be a nother user that will take his programing secrets to the grave with him.

Im Done ranting it just is a wast of my time.
Just keep your eye on   comfiletech.com    CUBLOC (The Heat is on)

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Technical support / Re:Access system
« on: May 07, 2006, 12:31:35 AM »
I dont want to cange the password of the PLC

I want to use 1 plc at the door hooked to a key pad and  the door release hooked to one of the plc's relays

Enter a 6 digit code, The door plc will send a request to the master plc "is this ______ code valid.

the master plc will then look up the code in its table and if it is valid send remote command to the door plc to open relay for N seconds

if the code is not valid it will send a pulse to a counter on the door plc

if the door plc receves 3 not valid pulses then it will time out reading of the keypad of 900 Seconds

You said there are many good Access systems out there to do this that is true!

But i would like to use your system to do this because over all it will be  cost efective
and i need to do other things like turn lights on, turn fans on, monitor status of doors closed,locked, as well as room temp.
cant find many door access systems that will let me do that.
not to mention HVAC system and alarm system

So here it is in a nut shell
I Am looking to use 17 plc's maybe the same number of HMI
are you willing to help and give me a simple application note on how to do it?????

Yes i know that requiers some work on your part, But it will also help you make sales to others. Dont you think others are looking at the support pages and saying what a dumb answer (go buy a good access system) why not just tell people to use an allen bradly PLC
the you dont have to do any work.

back to the subject

Or should i take my business to lets say WWW.COMFILETECH.COM
who also has Basic + Ladder programming PLC and lots of application Help and notes.
I have spent 1000.00 on your system but i could always dump it on ebay and go with CUBLOC System?
Don't you know the support is what makes the product.

Sorry for the additude but as i read through this forum all i see is basic answers to everyone.
And I think I have been verry detailed about what i would like to accomplish.

I am going to purchase there CUTouch system and a keypad interface since i need to add a touch screen anyway and test see wich one does the job better or in my case wich system has the quickest learning curve and best tech support.

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Technical support / Access system
« on: May 04, 2006, 06:42:44 PM »
Am looking to use your plc's to control our whole building
the AC system, Door Access, Alarm interface to call security monitoring service,
Garage door openers as well as KWH Logging and monitoring
Started on the code for the 8 10ton water loop AC System
and the cooling towers

Now i need to start on the Door Access and controll system
but i need some examples of doing a keypad encoder!
I would like to use six or more numbers for the codes and
like it to communicate to the master plc to autenticate the code entered!
then send back to the initiating plc to open door if code is authentic.

the problem is there is no standard on access systems
some use 4 dig + *  like our mag lock
some use # first then code like our Road Gate
some use just 4 numbers no #* or enter like our alarm system
some use 6 numbers and the # sign

not to mention every time someone leaves,quits,gets fired, Ect.
it takes all day to remove or reprogram there codes out of the many systems used
and now we are adding 20,000 more sq ft
9 garage doors,9 man doors, 6 more alarm keypads\systems, 2nd access gate
Point is I would like to get to the point of 1 place to make any changes or additions
and also handel Lighting control, Fans, alarm, HVAC Systems, Energy Management,
Access controll, Ect....  and your system has the power,Flexability, and price range to
Do the job Centrialized Building Controll System.

Just need some application notes,examples to guide me
down the right path and help me get started.

This may be a good product addition to your line.
or a startup line for some programing guru out there.

Any notes on KWH logging would be helpfull to.
you know Utility Power Recording

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Technical support / Re:ladder help
« on: April 29, 2006, 09:56:53 AM »
Ok
Well i got the On Delay to work Still lost onthe Off Delay

Thermostat_____________________________________OnDelay_10
                                                                                                 (TIM)

OnDelay_10____________________________________Comp_On
                                                                                                 (OUT)

Comp_On______________________________________OnDelay_90
                                                                                                  (TIM)  


OnDelay_90______________________________________Fan_On
                                                                                                 (OUT)

This Works But is it the Rigt way,Best Way and how do i do the Off Delay for the Fan

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Technical support / ladder help
« on: April 28, 2006, 11:27:47 PM »
i am trying to  make a on delay and a off delay run the same output

thermostat on---------------------------------------------------compress  on (out)                                                                                                                    
            |
            |_____delay on 30 sec___________________Fan on (out)
             |
             |_____delay off 2 min ------------------------------Fan on (out)

my mind is not yet intune with ladder logic
How do i this simple circuit
it seems to me that the timers need to see a change of state

do i need to wright a custome functionto do this?

please help                                                                                            
                                                                                                           
                                                                                                         

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Technical support / LCD and TBasic
« on: April 24, 2006, 07:50:43 AM »
I am trying to learn the TBasic and LCD comand structure.
and am trying to use the relays() to fire off the lines of text using 1  function #255 to script all text to LCD.

If Relay (1) then setlcd 1,1, "hello"
If Relay (2) then setlcd 2,5, "hello"
If Relay (3) then setlcd 3,10, "hello"
If Relay (4) then setlcd 4,15, "hello"
If Relay (5) then setlcd 0,0, "clear screen"

Ect Ect this will let me build a library of commands,text messages, and special efects all located in one function

The problem is it does not work.
Is there a better Way?

The reason i am trying to use the Relays is there is 512 of them or so it says.

Help Please



 

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