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Technical support / E10 limitations
« on: May 10, 2013, 09:07:46 AM »
Hello,

Sorry for yet another E10 question.
I've seached the web site, documentation and these forums but have been unable to locate the information I am looking for regarding the limitations on the E10.

I am sure its there somewhere but I cant find it.

I know that there is a limit of 4 timers on an E10 but what is the limits for counters? Is it the same? The reason I am asking is I need just 1 extra counter. I have 4 counters but when I add a 5th my program fails to work

The funny thing is, if I leave the 5th counter in the counters list (F2) but just remove all of the references to it in the ladder then the simulation works.

If I then do a simple ladder rung like:
--||--------()          Input 1 normaly open, through to counter5 coil.
Then the program will not launch simulation. Ctrl+F9 and nothing happens
Simulate -->> Run (All I/O reset) and again nothing happens.

If I remove the offending rung, the simulation runs and I can see the 5th counter listed (even though nothing references it in the ladder).

Are my issues related to a limit of 4 counters?

Thank you.

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Technical support / E-10 Question
« on: April 26, 2013, 08:47:30 AM »
Hello,

I have played with some E-10's. Love them.

I've ordered a Nano but have not played with it yet. However, I wanted to update the code on one of my E10's and cant find the programing disk that came with it (new installation of windows). I've got the i-trilogic disk for the nano and have installed it but it looks slightly different. I can load my e-10 code into it and it appears to run okay on the simulator but I did not want to attempt to upload it to my E10 incase it locked it up. I am still using the E10 for a small project and didnt want to risk not being able to use it with the old code that is loaded onto it.

Is it safe to use the software on the CD that came with the nano?

Is there a download link to get the software for the E10?

woody


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Technical support / Re:timer issue
« on: August 25, 2012, 11:36:28 PM »
I just stuck a relay in, and used a NC from the relay instead. Not sure if this is what anyone else would do...

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Technical support / timer issue
« on: August 25, 2012, 10:52:35 PM »
due to hardware not behaving the same as software I've decided to do a recode. Originally my E10Relay ladder logic was fine. It behaves as I intended in simulation mode but when uploaded to PLC it fails. I have 2 states either start batch or end batch (simple batch control). It seemed to not want to enter the second state when I monitor the PLC but simulation it does.

So looking over my ladder, I had done a lot of things the hard way as I was getting use to the environment. I decided to solve the problem I will just re-write it. This has presented another problem to me;

THE PROBLEM:
I just wanted to make a 1 minute timer and use counters to calculate 1 hour, half hour, and 6 hours.

So I made a one minute timer(tmr1) and placed a normally closed contact infront of it which was off tmr1.

I then made the 3 counters all with an open contact(tmr1) in front of them.

When I run this in simulation mode the timer is reset by the NC(tmr1) befor the NO(tmr1) contacts are detected by the counters. What am I doing wrong?

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Technical support / A simlpe question (Nano-10)
« on: August 17, 2012, 08:21:42 AM »
Hello,

Sorry for my simplicity. Currently I am using an E10Relay PLC to switch 240v AC and I am using all 4 of the outputs.

I would like to add an interface for users to change variables.

As suggested here, the nano-10 may be what I am after as I could use a web interface.

I understand with the nano you have the 2 relay outputs plus 2 multi purpose outputs. Are the multi-purpose outputs capable of switching 240vac or would I have to use two 240vac relays with a 24vdc coil?

Thank you

Woody

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Technical support / Re:small/cheap LCD
« on: August 01, 2012, 09:37:56 PM »
oh okay thanks for that :)

I thought I seen something about RS485 and just presumed I could modbus it. Another case of me not reading the documentation fully ;) I did check out the nano but I liked the fact that the E10 came with the onboard relays. I love the fact that I can switch 240v right off the board.

The web page would be great to use, I would like my end user to be able to change multiple settings in the program and at the moment I am limited to using 3 inputs for about 8 different settings.

I'll just have to fiddle with some toggle switches etc.

Regards,

Woody

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Technical support / small/cheap LCD
« on: July 28, 2012, 11:05:04 AM »
Hi all,

I have 2 inputs spare on my E10-Relay project. All seems to be working great. I would just like to add an interface that displays some basic stuff and allows an 'end user' to adjust the timers or counters.

It's just an after thought. Has anyone found/used a nice little LCD display with an E10? If so how would you do it?

I have been searching for something I could connect via modbus perhaps? I could pulse the remainding two inputs to scroll a menu, select, adjust etc. I've seen a lot of two button configurable devices out there before.

Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. I'm starting to saturate the capabilities of this nice compact little PLC but I am sure it will continue to surprise me!

Woody

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Technical support / Re:Timer variation PLC and WinTrilogic
« on: July 25, 2012, 10:49:10 AM »
Thanks Support :)

That is pretty much what I did. I wanted a 5.5 hour and a 0.5 hour timer so I set timers to 9000 and made them pulse a counter (in retrospect I could have used one 9000 timer).

For 0.5 hours I made the counter 1
For 5.5 hours I made the counter 21

Originally I made the counters 2 and 22 but then realised when simulating that the timer will count down and pulse the counter which only initialises it. Therefor, a counter set to 1 will actully see 2 pulses before it hits 0 and changes state of its contacts.

All I really wanted to confirm was that a timer set to 9999 was infact 16.6 minutes or there abouts and not a full minute out like my simulation was showing. Thank you for your confirmation I wont have to change any more of my code I suspect.

I'm really enjoying your product. I can see lots of potential for my side projects. Thanks once again.

Woody

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Technical support / Re:Timer variation PLC and WinTrilogic
« on: July 24, 2012, 11:37:50 PM »
And I just read that you can change the timers from 0.1s to 999.9s so I might do that rather than using a counter :) I can probably make them 60.0s timers and fix my issue by using whole minutes etc. I shall read a bit more before posting next time
*EDIT*
"4 timers (0.1s to 999.9s)" Silly me, you can't change the timers counting speed as my brain was thinking. 0.1 to 999.9s is just the values 1-9999. Each decrement is of course 0.1s x your value... Pretty much just scrap this comment, my problem in original comment still exists though.

Regards,

Woody

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Technical support / Timer variation PLC and WinTrilogic
« on: July 24, 2012, 10:59:05 PM »
Hi everyone.

Just finished my PLC ladder code for my new E10+relay. I am Really happy with it. I ended up needing more timers than were available but I managed to work around that by making some of the available ones generic timers and an internal relay coil opening/closing different rungs of ladder as needed.

So from the documentation, the timers by default are 0.1s decrements yes? I also read that a value of 1000 = 100 seconds.

So by my calculations, max value (9999) is about 16.7 minutes? Not exact, but close enough. Did I get that right or did I calculate that wrong?  (10000 / 10)/60 = 16.6667

Anyway I started a timer in simulation mode (WinTrilogi) and monitored it with my PC clock. After the timer expired I calculated the time to be 17.5 minutes. I did this a few times to check my results. Each time, a timer with the value of 9999 would take about 17 and a half minutes.

I would like my actual PLC timers to run as close to 4 hours and another as close to 30 minutes as possible. I was wondering if anyone could confirm for me that the timer in the PLC will be 16.7 minutes like I calculate or closer to the 17.5 minutes like the simulation mode shows? Keeping in mind that I am using counters to extend the range of my timers.

I am unable to load ladder onto my PLC to test at this point in time as I am in another country.

I presume the difference has to do with the software implementation in simulate mode. Maybe something to do with weired numbers like 1024  :)

I would just like to get my code as close to perfect as I can so it is ready to upload to my E10 when I go back home in a few more days.

Thanks,

Woody

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Technical support / Re:E10+Relay port assignments
« on: July 23, 2012, 10:25:40 AM »
Thank you, that's all I needed to know :)

I had the first 4 relays as my physical relays but it is easy to change in my code. If I had the PLC in my hands I would just run it and test it.

I love the simulation mode in your software too. Very handy.

Thank you for a great product. I look forward to using them through out my career! Keep up the good work.

Woody.

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Technical support / E10+Relay port assignments
« on: July 22, 2012, 07:55:24 PM »
Hello all,

I just received my E10+Relay starter pack. Looks like quite a nice little PLC and I am impressed so far. Can't wait to get going with it.

I whacked the CD into my laptop and installed it and got to writing some ladder but had to shut it down as I was due to fly out to Thailand that night.

So I am in Thailand now, just with the ladder code environment and I find myself stuck on something very basic... very simple... and was hoping someone here could help me out.

The E+10 plus relay has a bunch of physical inputs as well as some physical relay outputs. As you probably already know there are internal IO/Relay/Timer/Counters that you can use. So in the I/O table where I define these things, how to I know which are the physical and which are the internal? I am presuming inputs #1-6 are the physical inputs? Same with the relays? Relays #1-4 are the physical relay outputs and any relay >4 would be an internal one?

Also the starter kit says it comes with 5 items,
I didn't see item #4
4)  Programming Manual x 1

Is this on the CD? I left it back in Perth, Australia so I cant check the CD at this point in time. If its a hard copy I didn't seem to get it. I will contact the sales guy regarding it but if someone here knows then that would help me too :)

I tell you what though, if anyone is thinking of heading to Phuket I have the best resort suggestion.. nothing beats learning by your private pool, I am in paradise!

Woody

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