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Opinions & Feedback / Re:Product wish lists & pros & cons....
« on: April 17, 2010, 01:22:10 PM »
Hi,

I have the latest version and like described above the DM are mapped to words not bits.  Only the inputs, relays and outputs are mapped to bits.

This is a shame,  I don't think it would be hard for the software bods to have a flexible option to map x to words or bits.  You could use the standard map of user defined.

Cheers

122
Opinions & Feedback / Re:Product wish lists & pros & cons....
« on: April 16, 2010, 12:54:05 PM »

Hello,

I was aware of the DIN kit, but like others on the forum I believe it is inadequate.

Regarding the CAN bus, I work in the generator industry, J1939 is the standard on all new machines European and American it would be nice to "piggy back" on the CAN bus and read the broadcast messages for displaying on the HMI.  

One other advantage is remote IO, currently your limited to the IDC connector for you expansion boards or another PLC hanging on the RS485 network via net commands or Modbus.  If you have a CAN connection on you PLC and IO cards for the right application (being shellfish here!) I think it would be a good thing.  CAN to FO convertors with redundant networks are common place now and Phoenix Contact make a great module for just this.

The DB15 connector..... I'm not convinced personally, if I could do more to persuade you please let me know!

What do you think of the "Flipping the PCB" over idea?  It makes the product look much more modern.  

For the software side of things, having additional pages of tabs for each page helps keep the code organised, again if this is something your software bods could look at I'm sure I?m not the only one who would benefit from this??

Modbus mapping

This is a big section for me as every PLC I have use's this gateway.  I have studied section 5 many times but to me (again please correct me) inputs, outputs and relays are mapped to bits i.e. 40001.1 , 40001.2 etc, but the DM's are mapped to words, i.e. one DM per Modbus word.  If possible I would like to group 16 DM locations to create one 16 bit register, this way I?m only reading one word and not 16!!

 I would like to use the DM's for bit mapping within the program purely because this is what I?m used to.  Both European and American branded PLC's do this.

I?m using 6.31, I keep myself up to date as you progress the software with each version.

Appreciate you response and thoughts.

123
Technical support / Re:Custom Function error
« on: April 16, 2010, 07:19:32 AM »
Great thanks!

124
Technical support / Custom Function error
« on: April 16, 2010, 04:28:57 AM »
Hi,

I was using the below code in a basic program with no problems, whilst debuging some ladder logic I re-compiled and now it wont compile??  i added some comments but can't see any issues??

'******************************START
IF

TESTIO (CONTROL_OK)

DM[10] = 1

ELSE

DM[10] = 0

ENDIF


'******************************

IF

TESTIO (CLOSE_CB_STATUS)

DM[1] = 1

ELSE

DM[1] = 0

ENDIF

'******************************

IF

TESTIO (OPEN_CB_STATUS)

DM[2] = 1

ELSE

DM[2] = 0

ENDIF

'******************************


IF

TESTIO (TRIP_CB)

DM[3] = 1

ELSE

DM[3] = 0

ENDIF

'******************************

' CB STATUS CONTROL ALARM - BOTH INPUTS LOW

IF

DM[1] = 0 ' CLOSE

AND

DM[2] = 0 ' OPEN

THEN

DM[4] = 1 ' FAULT

ELSE

DM[4] = 0

ENDIF

'******************************

' CB STATUS CONTROL ALARM - BOTH INPUTS HIGH

IF

DM[1] = 1 ' CLOSE

AND

DM[2] = 1 ' OPEN

THEN

DM[5] = 1 ' FAULT

ELSE

DM[5] = 0

ENDIF

'******************************

' CB STATUS CONTROL ALARM - EITHER ERROR CONDITIONS

IF

DM[4] = 1 ' ERROR LOW

OR

DM[5] = 1 ' ERROR HIGH

THEN

DM[6] = 1 ' CB STATUS ERROR

ELSE

DM[6] = 0

ENDIF

'******************************

' CB STATUS CONTROL ALARM - CLOSED WHEN CONTROL NOT OK

IF

DM[1] = 1 ' CLOSE

AND

DM[10] = 0 ' CONTROL OK

THEN

DM[11] = 1 ' FAULT

ELSE

DM[11] = 0

ENDIF

'******************************

' CB STATUS COMFIRMATION OUTPUT

IF

DM[1] = 1 '  CLOSE

DM[12] = 1 ' CB SHOULD BE ON

ENDIF

IF

DM[2] = 1  ' OPEN

DM[12] = 0 ' CB SHOULD BE OFF

ENDIF

'******************************

' CB STATUS CONTROL CB CLOSING CIRCUIT OK

IF

DM[1] = 1

AND

DM[12] = 1

DM[13] = 1 ' CB CLOSED WHEN COMMANDED

ELSE

DM[13] = 0

ENDIF


' CB STATUS CONTROL CB OPENING CIRCUIT OK

IF

DM[2] = 1

AND

DM[12] = 0

DM[14] = 1 ' CB OPEN WHEN COMMANDED

ELSE

DM[14] = 0

ENDIF

'******************************END


125
Opinions & Feedback / Product wish lists & pros & cons....
« on: April 15, 2010, 07:46:02 AM »
Hi,

I have been a big fan of your products for some time now,  I have some TMD24's in the field and I'm just about to add another 2-3 PLC's to the same site.  

So far they have proved to be very reliable, and the support you guys provide is unmatched in the industry.

My comments on the hardware:

1) My biggest gripe with the PLC's and peripheral cards are the lack of support provided by the DIN rail connector kit.  The PCB is a non standard size for most universal PCB enclosurse which is a shame, as this would greatly improve the aesthetics of the product.

http://www.dinrailenclosure.com/dinsupports.php

2) Connectors, I have mixed feelings over these, I too prefer the Phoenix connectors as mentioned by other posts.  I have only ever had one issue with an analogue input connection, after I swapped this with a spare connector, all was well.  I think they are practical but not optimal.

3) The new F series, I have seen one of these in the flesh but I have yet to play with one.  I?m sure they are solid like the rest of the range. I noticed some text on the PCB "CAN?, are you looking to add CAN to these PLC's and associated modules?  I think this would be a great addition.

4) Again on the F series, the analogue IO is much improved with a 10V supply, which in my experience is a standard reference.  My big problem is why did you go with the DB15?  I think this is real mistake, DB15 cables and interfaces are becoming obsolete and this should have been terminals, I appreciate PCB space is tight but this is a step backward in my opinion.

4) One thing that is common over here (UK) is that the PCBs are flipped over, with only the connectors showing on the ?clean? side of the board.  This way all the "guts" are out of sight and you have room for PCB labeling, company logo etc.

My comments on the software:

1)   Quick tags ? why can?t you add more than 5?  Surely it cannot be hard to add as many as you want?

2)   I would like to see multiple pages of PLC code, by this I mean if I have some code for say pump control no.1  on page 1 and code for pump no.x on page x for example.  All the pages can be compiled as one when downloaded to the PLC.  This is just a house keeping thing that I am used to seeing. Another solution would be to compile multiple files, although this may be flawed as keeping the IO tags unique maybe a challenge, I?m sure the complier would pick it up but it may be a headache for the programmer.

3)   Modbus mapping ? I would really like to see an option to map the data memory to a Modbus register at bit level not just word level i.e. DM[1] ? DM[16] = 41001

4)   I would also like to use the data memory as a contact in the main program i.e. use DM[1] as a contact in a circuit to set a relay or output etc  if the value in DM[1] > 0 it would be true.  I know you have setio, set relay commands etc but you have to hunt these down in your custom function, and this would be more direct.

5)   Longer IO tag names would also be nice.

6)   Import and export IO tag names, custom functions etc to excel



My apologies if any or all of the above exist already, if they do I have failed to find them.  

Regarding the hardware, to implement any of the changes there will inevitably involve a cost, for some of the items I believe the cost would be justified

All in all I like the product very much and look forward to using it in the future.

126
Opinions & Feedback / Trilogi version 6 woes
« on: September 06, 2006, 04:14:45 PM »
Hi,

A couple of software suggestions for a possible V6.12 and TLServer 3.01!!

Why is it, when you attempt to open (local drive) a .pc5 file with version 6.11, your unable to see any .pc5 files even if you have selected "all files" in the files of type selection box?  Is this a Known bug?

Why have you used a different theme for the "open" and "save as" pop up windows, you loose the function of being able to navigate with the windows shortcut icons i.e. my computer etc (on the LHS)?

I've also had a few problems with the TLserver accessing port 25 of my ISP SMTP server.  Most ISP's are blocking this port in a bid to stop spam, if the TLserver had a selectable / set by user SMPT port number along with your ISP user and password credentials, you will be able to send emails from TLserver whatever your ISP feels like changing next.

You can use some SMTP server software on your local PC like postcast http://www.postcast.com, but this still tries to access port 25.  One solution is to use an ISP like http://www.no-ip.com/services/ who will let you send mail to their SMTP server.  They will then forward the email on for a nominal yearly charge. It?s not very expensive, about $20 for a years subscription but it's still extra expense that I think could be avoided with a tweak of the TLserver's software.

Anyone agrees / disagrees with these points?

Marcus

127
Technical support / Re:Problem sending Email
« on: September 02, 2006, 12:26:08 AM »
Hi,

No outlook is setup with port 25? So I?m not sure how my ISP sends, or maybe redirects to a different port?  Even if adding a "port number" box doesn't solve the issue, it will at least give people more options.

What if the TLServer used the same logon details i.e. account name and password the same as your email client, then the SMTP will probably allow the email through?

Interestingly enough, since installing the pro trial version of postcast, the free version (I didn't uninstall this just yet!) now works........ I'll wait until the pro version trial runs out to see what happens.

Again thanks for the help.


Marcus

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Technical support / Re:Modbus RTU question
« on: September 01, 2006, 02:58:58 PM »

129
Technical support / Re:Problem sending Email
« on: September 01, 2006, 02:56:23 PM »
Hi,

I tried the pro trial of postcast witch works!!!!!!!!.

Downside is its $49 of your fine bucks for a licence.

Any chance of releasing a new version of TLServer with a "define SMTP port number" setting box?

Marcus

130
Technical support / Re:Modbus RTU question
« on: September 01, 2006, 12:50:07 PM »
Hi,

I tried this string with no luck.

DM[3] = READMODBUS (13, 5, 101) COM3 RTU

I tried this string and it worked straight away!!!!!!

DM[3] = READMODBUS (3, 5, 101)  COM3 ASCII !!

I think need to find a device.

Marcus

131
Technical support / Re:Problem sending Email
« on: September 01, 2006, 12:33:22 PM »
Hi,

TLServer does connect to postcast no promlems and tries to send email, but my ISP is still blocking this port even though this is the port assigned within outlook / thunderbird???? I think this is auth smtp?

I found http://www.authsmtp.com will allow connections though ports 23 2525 etc, I would have to pay a annual charge to access this smtp but without the TLserver being able to send via a different port  I think I'm running out of options!

Do the ISP's on your side of the pond allow connections to port 25?

Thanks for the help by the way!

Marcus

132
Technical support / Re:Modbus RTU question
« on: September 01, 2006, 10:33:41 AM »
Hi,

I also use Modscan for testing most slave modbus devices.

  used this on the T100 to look at the data tables in RTU no problem.  I just can't get it to work as a master in RTU -ARHHHH.

The quest continues.....

133
Technical support / Re:Problem sending Email
« on: September 01, 2006, 01:28:13 AM »
Hi,

It seams in a bid to combat spam most ISP's over here block port 25 by default.

Can the TLServer be configured to use another stmp port?

I guess this is something that will cause more users problems in the future

Marcus

134
Technical support / Re:Problem sending Email
« on: August 31, 2006, 11:17:55 PM »
Hi,

I tried running  telnet smtp.wanadoo.co.uk 25 from the command prompt  and I received the following response:-

Could not open connection to the host on port 25, connect failed.

I will keep you updated.

Marcus


135
Technical support / Re:Modbus RTU question
« on: August 31, 2006, 11:09:03 PM »
Hi,

Yes.  when I select ASCII - no problems.  when I select RTU, I get no comms?

Can you recommend a slave emulator?

Marcus

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