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Technical support / Re: Bizarre LCD display problem
« on: April 25, 2003, 06:40:01 AM »
Did you connect the small signal booster board in between the expansion cable and the HMI? The signal booster board is to provide a boost to the expansion signal to take care of the impedance of the the long HMI cable that is plugged into the expansion port.  The signal booster board and the installation diagram is provided with the HMI packaging. Furture version of T100MD+ will include the booster signal on board so that the booster board is unncessary. If the booster board doesn't solve this problem then you can contact us at 877-874-7527 to arrange for a replacement

3002
Technical support / Re: PulseFrequency and Counter
« on: April 21, 2003, 04:28:42 PM »
Counter implemented in ladder logic will not be able to handle pulses faster than a few hundred Hz and is not a practical way for measuring encoder pulses.

You will have to use another High speed counter channel for counting the pulses in order not to have any missed count. If second HSC is not available, then you have to use another PLC to count the pulses and the master PLC can obtain the data via RS485.

Unfortunately you can't simulate the pulsefrequency function.  You have to load the code into the PLC to test it.

3003
Technical support / Re: LCD Display always on?
« on: April 29, 2003, 07:48:00 AM »
The LCD backlight is designed to be ON all the time. If you connect the right voltage and biasing resistor it is alright to leave it on all the time.  (You must connect the 150 ohm resistor in series to the 24V power supply).

3004
Technical support / Re: Linux?
« on: May 05, 2003, 09:39:07 AM »
One of our customers had successfully installed the TLServer on a Linux machine. There was a bit of a problem with the TRiLOGI client log in to the TLServer, but we did work to resolve the issue and an upcoming update of TRiLOGI (version 5.2) would incorporate the change. I have contacted the customer to view your posting and hopefully he can give you some advise.

3005
Technical support / Re: Separate power supply for an output?
« on: May 09, 2003, 08:03:35 AM »
When the PLC output is off, the output terminal is pulled up to 24V via a 10K resistor. If you connect the output to the LED then the LED is presented with a reverse voltage of 24-12 = 12V. Although this will not turn on the LED, but most LED are specified with a maximum allowable reverse voltage of about 5V. While I don't think a weak pull up voltage will cause any damage to the LED we won't know the long term effect.

So if you want to connect the LED to 12V power supply, you should connect a rectifier diode in series with the LED. The rectifier diode can tolerate much higher reverse voltage and will protect the LED from the 12V reverse bias when the output is turned OFF. When the output turns on, the current can flow from the 12V power supply through the LED and the rectifier into the 0V of the PLC power supply. Note that the LED 12V power and the PLC's 24V power must have common 0V.

                                LED          1N4001
+12V ----|>|--------|>|----------- PLC output.



The diode method can also be used when you intend to connect to a load with a lower power supply voltage than the PLC.

3006
Technical support / Re: Clock Speed
« on: May 09, 2003, 08:11:27 AM »
The T100MD+ PLCs are all clocked by a 16MHz crystal.

3007
Technical support / Re: DDe info request
« on: May 10, 2003, 08:33:47 AM »
The T28H-Relay does not support MODBUS so you can't use it with the Wonderware driver. There is not much we can do about it except to ask you to switch to a T100MD+ PLC.

For M-series PLC such as T100MD+ or T100MX+ you can change the PLC baud rate to other values such as 300,600, 1200,2400,4800,9600,19200, 38400. You can even change the communication format to 7 or 8 data bits, 1 or 2 stop bits and odd, even or no parity. It is very flexible. The PLC can also be used as MODBUS master as it can send out MODBUS ASCII or RTU message to other MODBUS slave.

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Technical support / Re: DDe info request
« on: May 09, 2003, 07:53:42 AM »
Did you setup your DDE server so that it communicates with the PLC using 38,400, 8 data bit, 1 stop bit and no parity? The PLC default ID = 01. All these parameters must be configured properly so that the DDE server can talk to the PLC.

3009
Technical support / Re: Temperature Transmitters
« on: January 21, 2003, 07:56:09 PM »
We don't offer specific interface for a particular class of temperature transducer. What the M-series PLCs have are generic ADC that accept signals that range from 0 to 5V (on T100MD1616+ there are 2 channels of 0-1V ADC).

If your temperature transducer/transmitter can be configured to produce 0-5V output then you can connect them to the T100MD888+'s analog input directly. Otherwise you need to get signal conditioner to convert the sensor's output into 0-5V.


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Technical support / Re: LCD and stepper motor question
« on: May 27, 2003, 03:05:25 PM »
The best way of using the T100MD888+ to control the servo motor is to use the "smart servo" that Allen mentioned in the last postings.  There are also servo controller that accepts RS232/RS485 serial inputs for positioning. These will work even better since all the PLC needs to do is to send out an ASCII string describing the desired position and the speed and acceleration etc and the servo controller carry out the rest.

It would not be possible for H-series PLC to control a servo or stepper since H-series are simple relay replacer and do not have the capability of interfacing to a servo motor.

3011
Technical support / Re: LCD and stepper motor question
« on: May 20, 2003, 06:05:38 PM »
What Allen has mentioned is a type of servo controller that combines the advantage of stepper motor and servo motor. Unlike a stepper motor which is an open loop system, this type of servo is a closed loop system with encoder feedback but the loop is closed at the driver and not at the controller.

An ordinary stepper driver translates the pulses it receives into rotating electrical phase current to turn the motor. But the stepper driver does not know if the stepper motor ACTUALLY MOVE the required number of steps.  Slippage can occur which means that there is always a possibility that the stepper motor is off position but the controller does not know about it.

For an intelligent servo, the servo accepts the pulses and directional signal from a stepper controller (such as the PLC's stepper output) but make sure that the motor DO turn the number of steps that it receive by check on the position feedback from an encoder.

Regarding your LCD display with funny characters, we would like to check with you for your configuration. Please email us your contact number to support@tri-plc.com so that we can call you for more detail info about your setup.

3012
Technical support / Re: Wireless Connectivity
« on: May 22, 2003, 06:36:39 AM »
We have tested KeyTelemetering's radio modems before and found them compatible with our PLC's RS232 port.

3013
Technical support / Re: Sanyo Security Serial Protocol SSP
« on: June 06, 2003, 01:49:23 PM »
Depending on the complexity of the Sanyo protocol it may vary from very easy to complex to program to handle its protocol. If the protocol is ASII based and only need no error check or only need simple error check such as checksum, you can very easily handle it using the NETCMD$ command.

You can take example from our website that demonstrate interfacing the T100MD+ PLC to the I-7000 analog module. The I-7000 has its own very simple ASCII protocol and we used the NETCMD$ to efficiently read or write to the I-7000 modules.

See the following link for details:

http://www.tri-plc.com/i7000.htm
http://www.tri-plc.com/trilogi/I-7000.zip

3014
Technical support / Re: Is there a resistor value limit ?
« on: June 11, 2003, 07:47:58 PM »
If you connect a higher resistor the voltage will become higher (up to the limit of the voltage of the current power supply). However, the ADC input employ series resistors and diode clamp to clamp the input voltage to no more than 0.7V + AVcc. So the maximum voltage that the ADC input will see is about 5.7V. That will drive the ADC to saturation and the value read will be 4092.

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Technical support / Re: Stepper Motor Help
« on: June 11, 2003, 07:55:31 PM »
You can use two 10K resistors in series to divde the 0-10V input to 0-5V so that the ADC can read it. The ADC input are pretty fast response (less than 0.1ms). However, the PLC is really not designed to handle very high speed PID loop like in servo control.  

PLC scan time is about 7 microsecond per word of ladder logic. TBASIC varies from 0.1ms to several ms depending on complexity of the function. It is not very meaningful to talk about "Scan Time" of TBASIC since you don't usually execute the TBASIC at every ladder scan. Instead you execute a custom function once when an event ocurrl or you could use a clock pulse to periodically execute a custom function written in TBASIC.

The smallest deterministic sampling time is using the 0.01s clock pulse, which means about 100 samples per second.

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